Comments on: I Need Your Help!! http://toddhelmkamp.wordpress.com/2007/10/27/i-need-your-help/ Thoughts on the Meaning of Life.....by Todd Helmkamp Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:08:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Adam http://toddhelmkamp.wordpress.com/2007/10/27/i-need-your-help/#comment-1168 Adam Sun, 28 Oct 2007 01:42:44 +0000 http://toddhelmkamp.wordpress.com/2007/10/27/i-need-your-help/#comment-1168 From the practical perspective: What difference does it make? After thinking - I realize the value in this, but my very first thought was, "Who cares?" From the practical perspective: What difference does it make?

After thinking - I realize the value in this, but my very first thought was, “Who cares?”

]]> By: Mark H http://toddhelmkamp.wordpress.com/2007/10/27/i-need-your-help/#comment-1166 Mark H Sat, 27 Oct 2007 13:52:37 +0000 http://toddhelmkamp.wordpress.com/2007/10/27/i-need-your-help/#comment-1166 I'm not a trained theologian as you know, so I'd welcome help from others. But it doesn't seem to me that there's an order to events here. It seems to me that all the water was turned to blood as described in detail in the passage, but that Pharaoh's heart remained hardened because his magicians were known to be capable of the same. I'm reading from the ESV and in verse 22 it says "But the magicians of Egypt did the same by their secret arts". There is no word "then" to imply an order of events. I think it is just a statement that turning water into blood was something the magicians were known to be capable of as well (though probably not on the same scale). If you have a Hebrew study aid to hand then that may help to understand the exact meaning of the original text. However, I tend to find that word-for-word translations such as the ESV, NASB and KJV are usually trustworthy in this sense. Hope that helps. That's how it seems to me. But maybe someone more learned in the original text can shed more light? I’m not a trained theologian as you know, so I’d welcome help from others. But it doesn’t seem to me that there’s an order to events here. It seems to me that all the water was turned to blood as described in detail in the passage, but that Pharaoh’s heart remained hardened because his magicians were known to be capable of the same.

I’m reading from the ESV and in verse 22 it says “But the magicians of Egypt did the same by their secret arts”. There is no word “then” to imply an order of events. I think it is just a statement that turning water into blood was something the magicians were known to be capable of as well (though probably not on the same scale).

If you have a Hebrew study aid to hand then that may help to understand the exact meaning of the original text. However, I tend to find that word-for-word translations such as the ESV, NASB and KJV are usually trustworthy in this sense.

Hope that helps. That’s how it seems to me. But maybe someone more learned in the original text can shed more light?

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